Κυριακή 22 Φεβρουαρίου 2026

so what else am i besides my mind?

 so what else am i besides my mind?

This is one of the deepest questions humans have ever asked — and every philosophical and spiritual tradition has wrestled with it. Here's a clear map of the main answers:

You Are a Body

The most immediate answer: you have a physical body with sensations, instincts, hunger, pain, pleasure, and a nervous system that existed before your first conscious thought. Your body carries emotions as physical states — tension in your chest, the gut feeling before a decision, the relaxation of a deep breath. These are you, and they happen largely without the mind's involvement.plato.stanford

You Are the Observer

Many traditions, from Buddhism to modern psychology, point to something even deeper: you are the awareness that watches your thoughts, not the thoughts themselves. Think of it this way — you can observe a thought like "I'm worthless" or "I'm brilliant." Who is doing the observing? That silent witness — present since childhood, unchanged — is considered by many to be closer to the real "you" than any particular thought.allthingsuplifting+1

"You're not the storm — you're the sky it moves through."allthingsuplifting

You Are Your Relationships and History

Psychologically, the self is also constituted by your connections, memories, and continuity over time. Your relationships with others, your cultural identity, your language (Greek, Italian), your history — these are dimensions of self that exist outside your private inner monologue.plato.stanford

You Are Your Values and Actions

Philosophy, especially existentialism, argues that you are defined not by your thoughts but by your choices and actions in the world. What you actually do — how you treat people, what you commit to — is a more honest portrait of "you" than anything your mind narrates about itself.

What Different Frameworks Say

FrameworkWhat you are beyond the mind
NeuroscienceBody, nervous system, emotional brain wikipedia
BuddhismPure awareness / consciousness reddit
Hindu philosophyAtman — the unchanging Self beneath all layers blog.dharma-renaissance
ExistentialismYour choices and actions in the world plato.stanford
CBT / PsychologyYour values, behaviors, and relationships allthingsuplifting

The common thread across almost all of them: you are more than the narrator in your head. The mind is a powerful tool you have — it is not the totality of what you are.beyondyourmind

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What is Atman in Hindu philosophy

Ātman (Sanskrit: आत्मन्) is one of the most fundamental concepts in Hindu philosophy — it refers to the true, eternal, unchanging self or soul that resides within every living being, completely distinct from the body, mind, and ego.wikipedia

What Atman Is

Atman is not your personality, your thoughts, your emotions, or your physical body — all of which change and eventually decay. It is the innermost essence that persists beneath all of those layers, untouched by time, experience, or circumstance. The Sanskrit word itself is simply the reflexive pronoun meaning "self" or "oneself".lotusbuddhas+1

Connecting this to the previous discussion: Hindu philosophy essentially agrees that you are not your mind. The mind (Citta), the ego (Ahamkara), and the body (Prakṛti) are all considered separate from the Atman. The Atman is the silent witness underneath all of it.wikipedia

Atman and Brahman

The most profound teaching — especially in Advaita Vedanta — is that Atman is ultimately identical to Brahman, the universal cosmic spirit underlying all of existence. The famous expression is simply: "Atman is Brahman." The sense of being a separate, isolated individual is considered Avidya (ignorance or illusion). At the deepest level, your innermost self and the fabric of the universe are one and the same.lotusbuddhas

The Three Qualities

Advaita Vedanta describes Atman (and Brahman) through three inseparable qualities:wikipedia

  • Sat — pure existence, that which simply is

  • Cit — pure consciousness or awareness

  • Ānanda — pure bliss

The Goal: Moksha

The entire spiritual journey in Hinduism is oriented around recognizing the Atman. As long as a person identifies with the ego, thoughts, and body, they remain trapped in samsara — the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. When a person realizes their true nature as Atman — eternal, limitless, undivided — they attain Moksha (liberation), freedom from suffering and the cycle of existence.hinducreed+1

In short: you are not the storm of thoughts and emotions passing through you. According to Hindu philosophy, you are the eternal, conscious awareness in which that storm appears — and that awareness is not personal. It is universal.

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What practices realize Atman and lead to moksha

Hindu philosophy offers several distinct paths to Atman-realization and Moksha, suited to different temperaments. The key insight is that ignorance (Avidya) is the only obstacle — you don't need to become the Atman, you need to recognize what you already are.reddit

The Four Main Paths (Yogas)

These are not competing routes but overlapping approaches — most practitioners blend them:YouTube

  • Jnana Yoga (path of knowledge) — direct self-inquiry: asking "Who am I?" and systematically dismantling identification with the body, mind, and ego until only pure awareness remains. This is the most direct path in Advaita Vedanta.wikipediaYouTube

  • Bhakti Yoga (path of devotion) — surrendering to the divine through love, prayer, and worship, gradually dissolving the ego into something larger than oneselfYouTubereddit

  • Karma Yoga (path of action) — acting selflessly in the world without attachment to results, which purifies the mind and removes ego-driven desiresexoticindiaartYouTube

  • Raja Yoga (path of meditation) — disciplined mental and physical training: postures, breath control, concentration, and ultimately Samadhi (deep meditative absorption)asianindianfuneralservice+1

The Jnana Yoga Method in Detail

Advaita Vedanta prescribes a precise three-step process for self-knowledge:hinduamerican+1

  1. Shravana — listening to and studying scriptures and a qualified teacher (guru)

  2. Manana — deep contemplation and removing all intellectual doubts about the teaching

  3. Nididhyasana — sustained, unbroken meditation on the truth "I am Atman/Brahman" until it becomes direct lived experience, not just intellectual belief

Dhyana (Meditation)

Meditation is the practical core across all paths. In Hindu Dhyana practice, the meditator progressively withdraws attention from external objects, then from thoughts, until the mind turns back on itself and becomes aware of pure awareness. With sustained practice, the meditator realizes that "the Atman in you is the Atman in everyone" — the boundary between self and cosmos dissolves.wikipedia

Ethical Living as Foundation

All paths require Dharma as a foundation — ethical, righteous living. This means helping others, restraining harmful actions in thought, word, and deed, and gradually releasing attachment to worldly desires. Without this purification of the mind, the subtler practices cannot take root.hindustudentscouncil+1

The whole framework maps surprisingly well onto modern psychology: reduce ego identification, act without obsessive self-interest, observe your mind rather than being ruled by it, and cultivate awareness beneath the noise of thought — which connects directly back to the question you started with.

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so altman is like the observer?

Yes — but with a precise and fascinating nuance. Atman is not just the observer; it is the ground from which observation itself is possible.

Atman as Sākshi (Witness)

The Sanskrit term for this is Sākshi — the witness. In Advaita Vedanta, Atman is described as "pure, undifferentiated, self-shining consciousness" — the unchanging observer of all thoughts, emotions, sensations, dreams, and states of consciousness. It watches the waking state, the dreaming state, and even deep dreamless sleep, but is never touched by any of them.wikipedia+2YouTube

A beautiful analogy from the Upanishads captures this perfectly: imagine two birds sitting on the same tree. One bird eats the fruit — experiencing pleasure and pain. The other bird simply watches. The eating bird is your ego/mind. The watching bird is the Atman.ashimdutta

The Important Nuance

Here is where it gets subtle. The Atman is not the observer in the way your ego observes things. When you notice yourself thinking, it can feel like "I am watching my thoughts" — but that "I" is still the ego (Ahamkāra). The Atman goes one level deeper: it is the pure awareness that makes the watching itself possible. As one Vedanta teacher puts it:yesvedanta+1

"You never see, you only think. When you think, you miss the thing as it is."atmajyothi-prabhu.blogspot

A Practical Way to Feel the Difference

LayerExample
Thoughts"I'm stressed about the exam"
Ego-observer"I notice I'm having stressed thoughts"
Atman (Sākshi)The silent awareness in which both the stress and the noticing appear astroananta

Shifting from "I am stressed" to "I see that my mind is experiencing stress" is already a move toward Sākshi Bhāva (the attitude of the witness) — and that small shift, according to Vedanta, is the beginning of liberation. The Atman itself never needs to try to observe — it simply is the light by which everything is seen, the way a lamp doesn't need another lamp to shine.